Iraqi Death Toll Exceeded 34,000 in 2006, U.N. Says

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Post by old goat on Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:11 pm

That may have been the case back then, but the libs were on the war for oil kick and Dubya whimped... go figure.
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Post by iluvfreebeer on Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:13 pm

I never had a problem with a war for oil.
It's an irreplacable commodoty for civilized nations. And for us to remain on top we need oil and we need to deny the oil to the Chicoms.
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Post by old goat on Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:17 am

I agree there is some validity for it, but that wasn't the reason for going in. It IS a reason to stay. It probably was a reason for looking to do something to stablize the ME.
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Post by RightWingChick on Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:10 am

old goat wrote:That would be fine by me. I think we should take the oil fields, that way they can pay for the services we did for them.


Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw the other day:
"Nuke their ass and take their gas."

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Post by Joahob on Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:47 am

iluvfreebeer wrote:Frankly, I don't see how much more we can accomplish in Iraq.
We should take the oil fields and fire bomb the sunni triangle then let them have at each other.


I think the US should pull out and let Saudi Arabia and Iran battle to the death in Mesopotamia. Once they've annihilated each other we could move in and suck up the last of the oil wealth. But by then will probably have cheaper alternative fuels.

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Post by old goat on Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:17 am

Joahob wrote:
iluvfreebeer wrote:Frankly, I don't see how much more we can accomplish in Iraq.
We should take the oil fields and fire bomb the sunni triangle then let them have at each other.


I think the US should pull out and let Saudi Arabia and Iran battle to the death in Mesopotamia. Once they've annihilated each other we could move in and suck up the last of the oil wealth. But by then will probably have cheaper alternative fuels.
I don't think we would have the luxury of time to allow for that. A few nukes would go a long way. Twisted Evil
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Post by iluvfreebeer on Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:49 pm

Joahob wrote:
iluvfreebeer wrote:Frankly, I don't see how much more we can accomplish in Iraq.
We should take the oil fields and fire bomb the sunni triangle then let them have at each other.


I think the US should pull out and let Saudi Arabia and Iran battle to the death in Mesopotamia. Once they've annihilated each other we could move in and suck up the last of the oil wealth. But by then will probably have cheaper alternative fuels.


But during that war we'd be denied oil.
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Post by Popov on Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:32 pm

you can't nuke your problems, well, actually you can, but you'll never do it, again, unless you're between a rock and a hard place, or maybe not even, maybe to save a couple thousand troops.... yeah conclusion - still a possibility but it's prob better to negotiate your way to success to avoid contaminating the oil fields.... unless you get robots to do the mining... hmmm

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Re: Iraqi Death Toll Exceeded 34,000 in 2006, U.N. Says

Post by old goat on Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:30 pm

I think nukes are weapons of last resort, but what is the use of having them if everyone knows you will never use them? It is the threat that they will be used that makes them powerful, if you neuter that threat then you might as well not have them.
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Post by Joahob on Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:55 am

iluvfreebeer wrote:
Joahob wrote:
iluvfreebeer wrote:Frankly, I don't see how much more we can accomplish in Iraq.
We should take the oil fields and fire bomb the sunni triangle then let them have at each other.


I think the US should pull out and let Saudi Arabia and Iran battle to the death in Mesopotamia. Once they've annihilated each other we could move in and suck up the last of the oil wealth. But by then will probably have cheaper alternative fuels.


But during that war we'd be denied oil.


Which is perfect, because it would save the government the trouble of subsidizing unprofitable alternative fuels (at current oil prices). With the MidEast oil tap turned off, prices would go through the roof and private enterprise would begin producing cheaper alternative fuels for consumption. It’s a win win.

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Post by old goat on Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:02 am

Joahob wrote:.......
Which is perfect, because it would save the government the trouble of subsidizing unprofitable alternative fuels (at current oil prices). With the MidEast oil tap turned off, prices would go through the roof and private enterprise would begin producing cheaper alternative fuels for consumption. It’s a win win.
Except for the public who have to pay the prices till there is an alternative fuel. By then it probably won't matter, we will all be broke.
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Re: Iraqi Death Toll Exceeded 34,000 in 2006, U.N. Says

Post by Joahob on Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:07 am

old goat wrote:
Joahob wrote:.......
Which is perfect, because it would save the government the trouble of subsidizing unprofitable alternative fuels (at current oil prices). With the MidEast oil tap turned off, prices would go through the roof and private enterprise would begin producing cheaper alternative fuels for consumption. It’s a win win.
Except for the public who have to pay the prices till there is an alternative fuel. By then it probably won't matter, we will all be broke.


Nah. Most of the new technologies are already sitting on the shelf waiting for production. It may be that simply enhancing refining processes and other little tweaks will keep oil as a viable fuel.

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Post by iluvfreebeer on Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:39 pm

All I am saying,
is give nukes a chance.

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Re: Iraqi Death Toll Exceeded 34,000 in 2006, U.N. Says

Post by Buzzy on Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:51 pm

And yet the left refuses to allow us to drill in areas that probably have more oil than the entire mid east combined. They also kill any attempt to build nuclear power plants and file lawsuits saying that wind generators kill migratory birds. Every hydroelectric dam project has been fought tooth and nail as damaging the ecology and the DEMS even killed the tax credit for putting solar power panels on your house.

Exactly what is the lefts plan for alternative energy sources. They love to talk about them but obstruct any attempt to make them viable for the general public.

Such is the Lefts plans for fighting terrorism too. There are tons of quotes from all the big DEM leftists about how we should disarm Saddam of his WMDs but they crap bright yellow bricks when someone has the huevos to actually do something about it.

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