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Post by Bilbo Baggins on Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:42 am

The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins.

If you read it fully, and still are not convinced by it, I will give your views full respect, as you will have at least made an effort to learn about the other side of the argument.

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Post by iluvfreebeer on Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:45 pm

Bilbo Baggins wrote:The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins.

If you read it fully, and still are not convinced by it, I will give your views full respect, as you will have at least made an effort to learn about the other side of the argument.



First, you read the book Unintended Consequences by John Ross.
Then I'll read your book
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Post by Bilbo Baggins on Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:21 am

fair enough, i will look into it

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Post by Bilbo Baggins on Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:51 am

Looks like an interesting book actually

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Post by iluvfreebeer on Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:08 am

Bilbo Baggins wrote:Looks like an interesting book actually



It is.
I'm trying to find The God Delusion at half price books.
Maybe our library will have a copy.

I have no problem reading alternative views, as long as they're either
1 well written & entertaining
or
2 at least somewhat object/fact based
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Post by Bilbo Baggins on Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:41 am

Dawkins knows what he's talking about regarding religions today. I wasn't entirely convinced by his theories on agnostics but he reaffirmed my belief that whatevers up there does not care whether you wear a headscarf or if a guy likes another guy. Not that I'm saying we should get rid of religion, just lets make sure we don't force it on those who don't want it

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Post by iluvfreebeer on Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:54 pm

Bilbo Baggins wrote:Dawkins knows what he's talking about regarding religions today. I wasn't entirely convinced by his theories on agnostics but he reaffirmed my belief that whatevers up there does not care whether you wear a headscarf or if a guy likes another guy. Not that I'm saying we should get rid of religion, just lets make sure we don't force it on those who don't want it


I'm an agnostic.
That doesn't mean I agree with other agnostics.

But raghead muslims are evil bastards.
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Post by Bilbo Baggins on Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:16 pm

But raghead muslims are evil bastards.


So all Muslims are evil is that right? There has never been a good Muslim ever?

Spoken like a true Christian fundamentalist. You're no agnostic.

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Post by iluvfreebeer on Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:12 am

Bilbo Baggins wrote:
But raghead muslims are evil bastards.


So all Muslims are evil is that right? There has never been a good Muslim ever?

Spoken like a true Christian fundamentalist. You're no agnostic.



No.
Spoken like someone who's spent decades living with muslims.
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Post by Bilbo Baggins on Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:21 am

Spoken like someone who's spent decades living with muslims


Then you've clouded your vision with hate. I know some good Muslims, in fact in my country theres thousands of moderate Muslim people who are peaceful, hard-working and are not trying to overthrow the current government.

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Post by iluvfreebeer on Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:42 pm

Bilbo Baggins wrote:
Spoken like someone who's spent decades living with muslims


Then you've clouded your vision with hate. I know some good Muslims, in fact in my country theres thousands of moderate Muslim people who are peaceful, hard-working and are not trying to overthrow the current government.


And to these so called peaceful muslims go to Mosques?
If they do they are financially contributing to raghead terrorists.

Do these so called peaceful muslims openly denounce Hamas, AQ, Hezbollah, etc? Do they call for a fatah against such evil groups?
If not, then they are tacitly advocating terrorism, and are the enemy.
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Post by Bilbo Baggins on Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:26 pm

And to these so called peaceful muslims go to Mosques?
If they do they are financially contributing to raghead terrorists.


They do go to Mosques, but I would like some further information from you to back up the claim that all Mosques contribute financially to terrorism.

Do these so called peaceful muslims openly denounce Hamas, AQ, Hezbollah, etc? Do they call for a fatah against such evil groups?
If not, then they are tacitly advocating terrorism, and are the enemy.


Yes, the do denounce these groups, but like any civilized people they advocate diplomacy first when dealing with these groups, before violence is considered.

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Post by iluvfreebeer on Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:06 am

It's called Shakat.


And diplomacy doesn't work with savage hateful dogs like muslims.
But they understand POWER.
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Post by old goat on Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:18 pm

Bilbo Baggins wrote:The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins.

If you read it fully, and still are not convinced by it, I will give your views full respect, as you will have at least made an effort to learn about the other side of the argument.
What has reading one person's work got to do with our knowledge of the "other side"?

How about you study religion, study the various tenants of the different religions as well as study other points of view such as agnositics. Then we can talk.

One book and you are convinced? That shows me a person who is too easily swayed by a conviction you hope to be true.
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Re: Please, all of you read this!!!

Post by Bilbo Baggins on Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:22 am

I have studied many religions and I have found them all wanting. I have spent years sorting my ideas out and I've come to the conclusion that the human interpretation of 'God' is based on our fear of the unknown, not a proper understanding of the universe. Now thats just my opinion, and if you follow a religion then all power to ya, but I find it annoying when those who are very religious don't even consider the other side of the argument (which might not be you guys)

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